Philip Raby Porsche

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Is the 964 the next big thing?

Is the 964 the next big thing?

Anyone who knows me will know I’m a big fan of the 964-series 911 made from 1989 to 1993.

It’s a Porsche that’s had a tough life. In the early days, the engines leaked oil on a regular basis and, although Porsche quickly modified them to solve the problem, the damage was done, and the 964 had a reputation for being troublesome.

And then along came the 993, which had no reliability issues and, for many people, was better looking with its sexy curves. The 964 was to always live in the 993’s shadow and, as such, has been cheaper to buy as it wasn’t in demand.

However, just look at what the 964 offers. Compared to earlier 911s, its much more advanced, with coil sprung suspension, ABS brakes, four-wheel drive (on the Carrera 4), electronic heating controls and, generally, a more modern and sophisticated feel. It fact, it’s hard to think of anything the 993 does better than the 964.

The 964 was also the last 911 to retain the classic 911 profile, with prominent front wings – the wings you can see from the driver’s seat and which Ferry Porsche was furious that the 993 lost.

In many ways, the 964 was the bridge between classic and modern 911s.

It’s also a relatively rare car – only about 50,000 were sold worldwide, and I dread to think how many have been lost over the years.

Today, it’s a struggle to find decent 964s. Sadly, many have been neglected and just don’t do the model justice. Find a good one, though, and it’s a real peach of a 911 to drive, especially in Carrera 2 form.

The 964RS has become a real collectors’ item with prices around £70,000 plus, while the standard 964 struggles to sell for more than £16,000. Of course, the RS is rare and sublime to drive, but the standard 964 is not that different – powerwise, it’s only 10bhp less.

So I predict that good 964s will start to appreciate in value. If you’ve got one, look after it. If you want one, buy quickly – just make sure that you do get a good one, though.

Comments

  • Hi Phil,

    Does the 964 hold it’s value because it’s so hard to find a good one? Just wondering if the market is flooded with one’s that need work in the same way VW 60’s Split screen vans are?

  • Phil says:

    It’s not holding its value yet. Yes, it is hard to find a good 964 but it would be an exaggeration to say that the market is flooded with poor ones. There aren’t that many 964s out there – good or bad.

    Cheers

    Phil

  • Is this the model that came with the fixed tail or is this the electronic one?

  • Phil says:

    The 964 was the first 911 to have a retractable rear spoiler, in place of the previous fixed whaletail.

  • I definitely feel that the 964s have bottomed out in prices. They are almost the same prices as a 996.

    Definitely the silhouette of the 964 is the final iteration of the original 911.

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